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Old 06-09-2015, 04:15 AM   #1
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Tolkien’s 1914 version of Kullervo to be published

Tolkien wrote a short, English version of Kullervo in 1914. It is soon to be published.

Until now, I did not how strongly the tale of Turin Turambar reflected the story of Kullervo.

See a story published June 8 in The Indian Express for more information.
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Old 06-10-2015, 08:18 AM   #2
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Hmm, it's already been published, with commentary, in Tolkien Studies. Although admittedly that is not a relatively widely known publication.

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Tolki...dies:_Volume_7

Already got it! Or... at least what is in Tolkien Studies anyway, which looks to be the same thing at least. I wonder if the essays (from Tolkien Studies) are to be included in the new publication.

I would think so.
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Galin, I’ve not read The Kalevala, though I know both the tale and the Finnish language had a profound impact upon Tolkien. How strong is the echo of Kullervo in The Children of Húrin?
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Cool. I bought Attalus a gift edition of Tolkien's Beowulf for last Christmas. This will do for next

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Old 06-12-2015, 08:00 AM   #5
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Galin, I’ve not read The Kalevala, though I know both the tale and the Finnish language had a profound impact upon Tolkien. How strong is the echo of Kullervo in The Children of Húrin?
I was hoping no one would ask (something like) that


As I'm sure you know Alcuin, in letter 131 Tolkien explained: "There is The Children of Hurin, the tragic tale of Turin Turumbar and his sister Niniel -- of which Turin is the hero: a figure that might be said (by people who like this sort of thing, though it is not very useful) to be derived from elements in Sigurd, the Volsung, Oedipus, and the Finnish Kullervo."

To (try to) answer your question from my own subjective viewpoint, I think I would have to read the Kullervo tale myself at least, and while this section isn't very long (subjective as that is), I haven't arrived there yet. I haven't read Tolkien's version in Tolkien Studies as I want to read the runes first, but I did read his essays.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/kveng/kvrune31.htm

The link to the next rune appears at the bottom of the page (spoiler alert: Kullervo throws himself upon his sword in rune 36)


I am reading the Kalevala rather slowly (and I mean slowly, as I pick it up from time to time and read a rune or two), and have not yet reached these particular runes. I'm not sure I would be very good with this sort of question in any case.

Anyway, here is what Tom Shippey had to say, although I am sure there are other opinions and comments about.

https://books.google.com/books?id=8L...0Turin&f=false

Now I feel like reading another rune or two!

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